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« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2016, 02:01:36 PM »
Hi, again!
Just a very quick question, should I opt for the MSI x99a godlike gaming carbon motherboard instead? it's about 122 usd more expensive here but I feel like I could buy that one instead if it considerably better. What do you think? ???

I really couldn't tell you if the MSI X99 Godlike Gaming Carbon is better than the Asus Rampage V Extreme. When you get into this range of motherboards, only two things differ: features and looks. The performance will be exactly the same.



If you like the features and looks of the MSI board, which is quite distinctive, go for it. Just realize that it will not make your system faster.

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« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2016, 11:04:59 PM »
Yeah, I figured that and it was a  bit too pricy just for looks. I would've to wait just 8-9 days until it's in stock then pay 120 more usd than for the rampage. I have actually ordered all my components and will be building this bad boy in a week or so. I thank you for all the help and I will be recommending this website to all my friends. Wish me good luck with the pc! :D

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« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2016, 03:06:37 AM »
Yeah, I figured that and it was a  bit too pricy just for looks. I would've to wait just 8-9 days until it's in stock then pay 120 more usd than for the rampage. I have actually ordered all my components and will be building this bad boy in a week or so. I thank you for all the help and I will be recommending this website to all my friends. Wish me good luck with the pc! :D

Yes, absolutely, good luck!

Which video cards did you end up going with? Titans are becoming quite hard to find.

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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2016, 09:53:15 AM »
I ended up not buying a ''real'' card. Got a super  cheap r7 360 (my friend sold it for me since he was upgrading but it was almost new) from Asus as a placeholder before I buy Pascal/ polaris/ titan/ 980ti/ or anything else. So I won't be able to use the system in the way it was meant to be but it will still be functional so I can setup windows drivers and etc.  :)

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« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2016, 04:59:29 AM »
 I know the 960 pro M.2 1tb is not out until Jan 2017. But why are you not putting in the 2 tb one. Which shows Jan 7th release??? Samsung 960 PRO Series - 2TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6P2T0BW)Jan 7, 2017
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« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2016, 06:06:16 AM »
I know the 960 pro M.2 1tb is not out until Jan 2017. But why are you not putting in the 2 tb one. Which shows Jan 7th release??? Samsung 960 PRO Series - 2TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6P2T0BW)Jan 7, 2017
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Because it wasn't listed for sale when the build guide was published.  Thanks for finding it, though  - it will be added shortly.

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« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2017, 11:03:36 AM »
For a great discussion of using the Supreme Dream Machine as the basis for the ultimate HTPC, see this thread.

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« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2017, 01:42:01 PM »
  PC builders are advertising the 7980 cpu. Time for an update ?? or is this pre-order only ?  Thx for the great build ! I continue to dream   ;)

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« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2017, 01:56:10 PM »
Preorders are open now. I decided it would be a waste however as it's going to be a very long time before any games come close to using 18 cores, and by then something better will be available for less anyway.

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« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2017, 02:10:11 PM »
  PC builders are advertising the 7980 cpu. Time for an update ?? or is this pre-order only ?  Thx for the great build ! I continue to dream   ;)

Nope, not available. Shipping Oct. 23rd. Based on benchmarks, the Core i9-7960X is actually going to be the chip you'll see in the November update. 16 versus 18 cores is a practically irrelevant distinction, but the 7960 runs at much higher clocks out of the box, and can overclock higher too. The 7980XE is simply being pushed too hard, running over its rated TDP. Clearly, Intel just wanted to "beat" AMD's threadripper in terms of core count.

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« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2017, 02:14:23 PM »
 Not sure if this is the best or right place to ask.. but it is the dream machine   ;D   So here goes !   Have you considered an article on overclocking, de-lidding, optimize Windows and raid 0 M,2 NVME. On Dream Machine ?  Is it worth it or we getting to the diminishing returns so low as to be unnoticeable?

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« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2017, 02:20:27 PM »
  PC builders are advertising the 7980 cpu. Time for an update ?? or is this pre-order only ?  Thx for the great build ! I continue to dream   ;)

Nope, not available. Shipping Oct. 23rd. Based on benchmarks, the Core i9-7960X is actually going to be the chip you'll see in the November update. 16 versus 18 cores is a practically irrelevant distinction, but the 7960 runs at much higher clocks out of the box, and can overclock higher too. The 7980XE is simply being pushed too hard, running over its rated TDP. Clearly, Intel just wanted to "beat" AMD's threadripper in terms of core count.

Is this going to perform better for gaming than the current 12 core?

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« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2017, 05:43:00 PM »
  PC builders are advertising the 7980 cpu. Time for an update ?? or is this pre-order only ?  Thx for the great build ! I continue to dream   ;)

Nope, not available. Shipping Oct. 23rd. Based on benchmarks, the Core i9-7960X is actually going to be the chip you'll see in the November update. 16 versus 18 cores is a practically irrelevant distinction, but the 7960 runs at much higher clocks out of the box, and can overclock higher too. The 7980XE is simply being pushed too hard, running over its rated TDP. Clearly, Intel just wanted to "beat" AMD's threadripper in terms of core count.

Is this going to perform better for gaming than the current 12 core?

It really depends on the game, but I'd say the chip with the best combination of core count and base clocks (or overclocks if you're overclocking) is the one to go for. In that regard, yes, the 7960X will likely be superior in gaming to the 7920X, but then again, right now it's selling for almost $700 more, and will probably offer something like a 1% difference. We're talking serious diminishing returns. The ultimate gaming CPU? Yes, but for anyone working with an actual limited budget, there are of course better things you could spend that $700 on if gaming is your main focus.

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« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2017, 06:29:59 PM »
Not sure if this is the best or right place to ask.. but it is the dream machine   ;D   So here goes !   Have you considered an article on overclocking, de-lidding, optimize Windows and raid 0 M,2 NVME. On Dream Machine ?  Is it worth it or we getting to the diminishing returns so low as to be unnoticeable?

Hey there, Luccan, good question!

So, yes, those topics are definitely of the "ultra-high-end" variety, and builders of the Supreme Dream Machine may be interested in learning more about them. The closest thing you'll find from TBG is coverage of SATA RAID0 and CPU overclocking in an ultra-high-end assembly guide published in 2015, and another look at overclocking in the 2016 edition of the ultra-high-end assembly guide.

Given the speed of NVMe drives, RAID0 is really not worth the trouble, as its only real benefit is in sequential operations, which NVMe drives can handle well as it is, and there are therefore no plans to do an NVMe RAID0 how-to article. As for overclocking, that will be touched on in future how-to/assembly guide articles, although none is in the works right now. The most likely CPU candidate would be the Core i7-8700K, launching tomorrow. Of course, it's not what you'll see in the Supreme Dream Machine, but buying a Core i7-7980XE just to do some overclocking tests is not in TBG's future!