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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2019, 01:46:11 PM »
It isn't "store credit", it's a warranty trade-in of my tv for a "comparable" model up to the value I originally paid which is about $5,000. If I trade in for a $2,500 set I effectively give up any money left on the table (and as the warranty resets it behooves me to "spend" it all in case something happens with the new set).

AFAIK Costco does not stock the Emperium, so the issue is moot even if some of the reviews for it aren't that stellar. Actually I'm not sure if they stock the Q900 either.

Lastly, Sony just announced specs today for the PS5 or whatever it ends up being called to release next year, which will support some form of (likely upscaled/checkerboard/compression based) 8k, and considering I'm unlikely to upgrade my set next year and the price takes advantage of my trade in value it seems to make sense to future proof myself for 8k now while I have the opportunity...

...unless you can think of a reason why I shouldn't considering the facts I laid out above.

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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2019, 06:28:13 PM »
It isn't "store credit", it's a warranty trade-in of my tv for a "comparable" model up to the value I originally paid which is about $5,000. If I trade in for a $2,500 set I effectively give up any money left on the table (and as the warranty resets it behooves me to "spend" it all in case something happens with the new set).

AFAIK Costco does not stock the Emperium, so the issue is moot even if some of the reviews for it aren't that stellar. Actually I'm not sure if they stock the Q900 either.

Lastly, Sony just announced specs today for the PS5 or whatever it ends up being called to release next year, which will support some form of (likely upscaled/checkerboard/compression based) 8k, and considering I'm unlikely to upgrade my set next year and the price takes advantage of my trade in value it seems to make sense to future proof myself for 8k now while I have the opportunity...

...unless you can think of a reason why I shouldn't considering the facts I laid out above.

In that case, sounds good. But the PS5 running at 8K is going to be a real stretch.

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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2019, 09:04:02 PM »
So Costco doesn't carry the 8k one anyway.

All they carry is the Q7 series which is two steps down from the flagship Q9. Annoying as the local dimming isn't as good as the better versions. Alternately they carry the Vizio- PQ model. \

Which would you recommend?

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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2019, 10:06:32 AM »
So Costco doesn't carry the 8k one anyway.

All they carry is the Q7 series which is two steps down from the flagship Q9. Annoying as the local dimming isn't as good as the better versions. Alternately they carry the Vizio- PQ model. \

Which would you recommend?

I figured Costco wouldn't have that ultra-high-end gear. Given the selection, I'd probably go with the 65" Vizio PQ, but that's only $1,400 at Costco right now, which is an insane deal, but far from hitting your full trade-in value. If you have the space, you might consider the 82" Q7, which is overpriced in my opinion, but it sure is big!

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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2019, 11:25:46 AM »
Yeah the choice seems to be between a new LG OLED, The Vizio-P, or the Samsung Q7. You think Vizio is better than Samsung? I wish they had the higher end Samsungs.

Sucks about the loss of trade in value I agree.

My space has a hard limit of 65 inches. When I posted the pic of my monster rig you might have seen that the screen fills the entire alcove.

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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2019, 11:47:46 AM »
Yeah the choice seems to be between a new LG OLED, The Vizio-P, or the Samsung Q7. You think Vizio is better than Samsung? I wish they had the higher end Samsungs.

Sucks about the loss of trade in value I agree.

My space has a hard limit of 65 inches. When I posted the pic of my monster rig you might have seen that the screen fills the entire alcove.

Oh, OK, I forgot about that 65" limit. Well, I do know that the Vizio PQ was better than last year's Samsungs, because I tested them both. I'm actually going to be getting in a Q8R for testing next month, but that will be after you need to make your decision. The Samsungs have improved a lot, at least at the high end, based on what I saw at CES, but I just don't know how much is sacrificed with the Q7. You can look over the specs, of course, but what I'm saying is that I don't know how that translates to picture quality.

I also really like that Vizio supports Dolby Vision, which Samsung does not and probably never will. So that is something I'm also factoring in, but if DV isn't important to you, I think the pendulum swings a bit in the Q7's favor versus the Vizio PQ. Also, Samsung's user interface, while not perfect, is definitely better than Vizio's.

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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2019, 01:34:31 PM »
I suppose I could always get a new LG OLED and then just replace it again when the inevitable burn in occurs,  as the 2 year warranty will reset, though it won't solve the near black pixelation problem.

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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2019, 03:04:56 PM »
I suppose I could always get a new LG OLED and then just replace it again when the inevitable burn in occurs,  as the 2 year warranty will reset, though it won't solve the near black pixelation problem.

FYI, you might be interested in reading my review of Samsung's 2019 Q80R 65" 4K TV.
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2019, 04:55:17 PM »
I ended up going with the Vizio-P. :)

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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2019, 10:13:05 PM »
I ended up going with the Vizio-P. :)

That's also a great choice. The image quality is excellent.

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« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2019, 12:01:48 PM »
Hi Ari,

I currently have a midrange 42 inch 2011 Panasonic plasma that's working fine and I'm tempted to go for the Samsung UN55RU8000U since it's on sale.

however, I'm a bit worried about picture quality and angle of view of plasma vs led technology. would you say it's better to just wait for 2020 when OLED tvs are supposed to become more affordable?
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« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2019, 01:19:00 PM »
Hi Ari,

I currently have a midrange 42 inch 2011 Panasonic plasma that's working fine and I'm tempted to go for the Samsung UN55RU8000U since it's on sale.

however, I'm a bit worried about picture quality and angle of view of plasma vs led technology. would you say it's better to just wait for 2020 when OLED tvs are supposed to become more affordable?

The Samsung UN55RU8000U is on sale for $550. If you're talking OLEDs, you're comparing apples to oranges. Every year, the rumor is they're going to be cheaper, and every year, they are the same price. The LG OLED 55B9 is currently $1200. The 2020 model is not going to be cheaper than that when it arrives in April, you can count on that.

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« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2019, 02:47:34 AM »
yeah I haven't explained myself well, I'm not comparing LCD and OLED I'm just a bit worried about how 2019 LCD technology compares to my current plasma: I don't want to get a new tv and realize that aside from size I liked the old one more :D

for example, I've seen a TCL 65DP600 on sale at approx the same price as the Samsung UN55RU800U which is also tempting, but I guess the picture quality makes it not worth it even taking the increased size into account.

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« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2019, 08:21:42 AM »
yeah I haven't explained myself well, I'm not comparing LCD and OLED I'm just a bit worried about how 2019 LCD technology compares to my current plasma: I don't want to get a new tv and realize that aside from size I liked the old one more :D

for example, I've seen a TCL 65DP600 on sale at approx the same price as the Samsung UN55RU800U which is also tempting, but I guess the picture quality makes it not worth it even taking the increased size into account.

The LCDs will not match your plasma in terms of viewing angles, but they'll beat it in everything else, including actually being 4K, having HDR modes, and being much, much brighter. The Samsung UN55RU8000 is a fantastic TV. I tested last year's model, and it was so good that I ordered one on Black Friday for $750 for my parents. This year it's even cheaper. At $550 it's a steal. This is an $1,100 MSRP model.

The TCL is a waste of money. Total garbage. Big poor quality screens are not particularly compelling from my point of view.

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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2019, 10:33:45 AM »
thanks for the info, that's exactly what I wanted to know :D