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Ari Altman

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TBG's $1,750 Content Creation PC Build
« on: August 03, 2017, 04:42:55 PM »
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Re: TBG's $1,800 Content Creation PC Build
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2018, 06:19:50 PM »
Hello,

Thank you for the great guides!

Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm a bit confused by the commentary regarding memory..
From what I can make out, the chosen motherboard (Gigabyte X470 AORUS Ultra) supports dual channel, but the chosen memory (Ballistix Sport LT) is quad channel?

Are these two still compatible?
Or am I better choosing a 2x16GB dual channel memory such as G.Skill Ripjaws V (F4-3200C16D-32GVK)?

Appreciate your help.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2018, 06:26:47 PM »
Welcome to the Forum, hari!

Good question. Actually, channels are different than the number of sticks of RAM, so regardless of whether you use two or four sticks, it's still dual channel.

Also, the kit you mentioned would not work. In fact, AM4 motherboards do not properly support any high speed 16GB sticks at this point, for reasons related to a complex factor called memory rank.

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2018, 07:00:21 PM »
Cheers for the fast response, Ari.

Is there any easy way to identify whether a particular memory is single or dual rank?
OEMs don't seem very forthcoming with that information..

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2018, 09:46:07 PM »
Cheers for the fast response, Ari.

Is there any easy way to identify whether a particular memory is single or dual rank?
OEMs don't seem very forthcoming with that information..

Unfortunately, most RAM manufacturers don't provide any information on memory rank. The only ones that I've seen do it regularly are Crucial/Balllistix and Kingston/HyperX. But there is one place you can always go to find this information, and that is motherboard manufacturers, as they always provide memory compatibility lists for their products. In the case of the Gigabyte X470 AORUS Ultra, you can find that list here.

Currently, there is no way to produce 16GB RAM modules that are single rank, as the density of memory chips required to do so doesn't yet exist. But Samsung is working on it, so eventually, it should be possible to run more than 32GB on the Ryzen platform. For now, you must use either two 4GB sticks, two 8GB sticks, or four 8GB sticks.

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 02:02:04 PM »
Hello I am buying this motherboard today (Gigabyte X470 Ultra gaming) and I'm a bit confused about SSD drives.

I was looking to buy two 2TB SSD drives.

I was planning to buy these two which are at 400$ CAD a piece:

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series M.2 2280 2TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-N6E2T0BW

Would that be the ultimate fit for this mobo? It has two M.2 slots right?

If not, can you please direct me to the right models?

Thanks

Fred.

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2018, 02:28:20 PM »
Hello I am buying this motherboard today (Gigabyte X470 Ultra gaming) and I'm a bit confused about SSD drives.

I was looking to buy two 2TB SSD drives.

I was planning to buy these two which are at 400$ CAD a piece:

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series M.2 2280 2TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-N6E2T0BW

Would that be the ultimate fit for this mobo? It has two M.2 slots right?

If not, can you please direct me to the right models?

Thanks

Fred.

Welcome to the Forum, fredlegrand!

I'm glad you asked, because you actually cannot use two SATA-based M.2 drives with the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming. I would instead recommend you consider getting one Samsung 860 Evo 2TB M.2 drive, and one Crucial MX500 2TB 2.5" drive, which happens to be on sale at Amazon Canada for Black Friday (and will likely sell out within hours). The performance of the two drives will be nearly identical, one will simply be connected via a cable to the motherboard and mounted in the case. The 860 Evo is slightly faster, but the 860 Evo 2.5" model is currently twice as much as the MX500 2TB 2.5". Seriously, grab that MX500 right now - it's way cheaper in Canada than in the US! I'd suggest getting two, but the deal is so hot that Amazon is only allowing one per customer!

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2018, 04:17:10 PM »
wow thanks for the tip Ari! Just purchased both.  :)

As for the RAM, I was thinking of getting this one (G.skillz TridentZ), as it is less expensive than the suggested ballistix ones.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232482&Description=g.skill%20tridentz&cm_re=g.skill_tridentz-_-20-232-482-_-Product

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR

What are your thoughts, is there any better deal for me in Canada?

Thanks a bunch.

Fred.


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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2018, 04:25:15 PM »
wow thanks for the tip Ari! Just purchased both.  :)

As for the RAM, I was thinking of getting this one (G.skillz TridentZ), as it is less expensive than the suggested ballistix ones.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232482&Description=g.skill%20tridentz&cm_re=g.skill_tridentz-_-20-232-482-_-Product

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR

What are your thoughts, is there any better deal for me in Canada?

Thanks a bunch.

Fred.

With an AMD Ryzen build, you have to be quite careful with RAM selection. There is a good chance that the G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4-3200 kit won't boot, and certainly won't run at its rated speed. Alas, this is one of the reasons that you might see slower kits priced higher than faster kits: the market is adjusting to the fact that AMD Ryzen CPUs are outselling Intel CPUs right now, and Ryzen owners are buying up the slightly slower RAM.

The key is that Ryzen requires newer "single-rank" RAM, which most G.Skill RAM is not. If you'd like to get faster RAM, go with two sets of this Crucial 2x8GB DDR4-3000 Kit. Again, like the Crucial SSD, this kit is on special today, and will get you 32GB of single-rank 3000MHz RAM for far less than the G.Skill kit, which again likely wouldn't run at its rated speed. This is a brand-new RAM kit from Crucial, and was likely created to give Ryzen owners an extra boost while maintaining compatibility.

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2018, 03:47:49 PM »
Thanks again Ari. You are a gold mine! I went ahead and purchased two kits. Great price indeed!

I was wondering why you were suggesting the flash kit for Windows 10 64 bits home edition?

I have it at 110$ here but it is not the flash version:

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6382E9244&Description=windows%2010&cm_re=windows_10-_-32-416-892-_-Product

Thanks again.

Fred.

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2018, 05:44:00 PM »
That is fine if you have a DVD reader in the PC, but your build will not. You'd need to download a 4GB ISO from Microsoft, lead it onto a flash drive, and use the license from the DVD package. The USB version is obviously much simpler to use.

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2018, 12:07:33 PM »
Thanks for the tip Ari.

In my excitement and hurry, it turns out I ordered the AMD Ryzen 7 2700 CPU instead of the 2700X one.  ::)

Will it still run fine on the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming motherboard? i know it's a little slower.

What are your thoughts on it? Should I return it?

Thanks again.

Fred.




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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 12:23:45 PM »
Thanks for the tip Ari.

In my excitement and hurry, it turns out I ordered the AMD Ryzen 7 2700 CPU instead of the 2700X one.  ::)

Will it still run fine on the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming motherboard? i know it's a little slower.

What are your thoughts on it? Should I return it?

Thanks again.

Fred.

The 2700 and 2700X will both work fine in this build. With Black Friday sales over, you'll pay a whole lot more for a 2700X at this point, assuming you got some kind of discount on the 2700. If you'd like to match the 2700X's performance, it's fairly easy to do through overclocking.

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 12:30:47 PM »
Okay I can breathe a little better now  :)

I got the 2700 at 329.99$ CAD (not an awesome deal but still...)

The 2700X is now selling at 474.99$++ CAD

I'll stick to the 2700 then.

Thanks mate.


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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 12:32:24 PM »
Okay I can breathe a little better now  :)

I got the 2700 at 329.99$ CAD (not an awesome deal but still...)

The 2700X is now selling at 474.99$++ CAD

I'll stick to the 2700 then.

Thanks mate.

Yes, not even a close call. The 2700 at CAD$330 was actually an amazing deal. The cheapest it got in the US was $250, which is CAD$332.