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Good morning everybody,

  Sorry if i'm on the wrong place for this but here is the issue i have and thanks for any help in advance. I just finished built the recommended 3000$ gaming pc from this website and installed windows. I guess the next step is to install the drivers but since i don't have a optical drive, i cannot use dthe provided disc. I connected hardwire into the router for internet access but windows does not show any network and i just can't get online to download drivers. My next step is to download from another computer and on a usb drive. I have a Z390 Ultra motherboard and the website shows over 25 drivers, my question is, do i need all the 25 drivers? Is there any other simple way to do that?
Thanks!
Stephan
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The Home Office Mini-ITX/STX Build / Re: The TBG Home Office Mini-ITX Build
« Last post by RalphP on October 16, 2019, 04:31:59 PM »
WOW!!!  The OS (window$) is over 25% of the total cost of your build???  That makes no sense to me.... 

Try Linux Mint (its free), especially if you are planning on doing simple stuff like:
web-browsing & email (use firefox or chrome),
documents & spreadsheets & databases (libreoffice is a good choice),
developing new software in many languages (MANY choices including gcc and emacs),
writing and maintaining web pages(I like BlueGriffon),
most games (use steam), etc, etc, etc

One could try Linux Mint first. If it doesn't work for you and you really need to spend lots of money on windoZe, you can wipe the disk and replace linux mint with windows.

Questions?  Contact me!  I have been using linux since 1995 and Linux Mint (a specific distribution) since about 2008.

I will now yield my soapbox to someone else  ;D,
Ralph Peters
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The High-End Gaming and Work PC Builds / Re: The TBG $1,250 Quiet Gaming PC Build
« Last post by Ari Altman on October 15, 2019, 07:39:29 AM »
Hello Ari,

Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed made a couple videos detailing how the XFX 5700 THICC is poorly engineered in the thermal department, I'm not sure if you've seen them yet but I'm curious to know if you disagree with them and if so why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwczmQNHVfo

Thanks as usual and have a nice day :)

I don't pay too much attention to the "product takedowns" that GamersNexus does, as it's mostly for YouTube clicks. What I do pay attention to, however, are the excellent thermal and noise charts put up by TechPowerUp, which are a lot more instructive than Steve's amateur engineering analysis. And it shows that the Thicc is quite good at cooling the GPU, but does let the VRMs heat up a lot.

So, with that said, I'm going to switch the guide to the Sapphire Pulse. Take note that the Thicc was available weeks before any other custom designs, which is why it's been recommended in the guide for over a month, so it was definitely the right choice initially. But thanks for asking the question - it was a good one.
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The High-End Gaming and Work PC Builds / Re: The TBG $1,250 Quiet Gaming PC Build
« Last post by Gekko64 on October 15, 2019, 04:07:17 AM »
Hello Ari,

Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed made a couple videos detailing how the XFX 5700 THICC is poorly engineered in the thermal department, I'm not sure if you've seen them yet but I'm curious to know if you disagree with them and if so why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwczmQNHVfo

Thanks as usual and have a nice day :)
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General Discussion / Re: Putting Together A Build...
« Last post by LongJon on October 14, 2019, 04:43:44 PM »
Yeah I thought for sure she had at least 8gb but I was wrong.  I can't believe she's been able to do what she's done with 4 but it makes total sense all the slow downs and times she has to restart in a day/week now that I know that. 
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General Discussion / Re: Putting Together A Build...
« Last post by Ari Altman on October 14, 2019, 03:16:01 PM »
I went by her office today to look at her computer.  She's running 4, yes FOUR GB or RAM currently which amazed me.  But yeah I definitely appreciate all the help.  As soon as she gives me the go ahead I'll start ordering the parts.  I'm more excited for her than I was my own build lol.

Oh, no, that's totally unusable! The 32GB might be overkill for her now, but as we can see, she keeps her systems for a while, and choking on RAM is going to be the #1 reason a PC feels terrible (assuming you're not running a hard drive, which would mean a PC is just trash!).
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General Discussion / Re: Putting Together A Build...
« Last post by LongJon on October 14, 2019, 03:12:47 PM »
I went by her office today to look at her computer.  She's running 4, yes FOUR GB or RAM currently which amazed me.  But yeah I definitely appreciate all the help.  As soon as she gives me the go ahead I'll start ordering the parts.  I'm more excited for her than I was my own build lol.
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The High-End Gaming and Work PC Builds / Re: TBG's $1,750 Content Creation PC Build
« Last post by Ari Altman on October 14, 2019, 02:10:57 PM »
That new 12 core 3900x has me a bit jealous now lol.

I hear you. I actually delayed rolling out the 3900X by about two months because it was non-existent upon release, and then was selling for $300 over retail. Now it's settled into a price that's about 10% over retail, but you know what, it's worth it for content creation. Those 12 cores mean business. It's about 50% more than the 3800X, with 50% more cores. The market spoke and AMD listened: people wanted to pay more for the 3900X than AMD launched it for. Fair enough. While AMD will never admit it, I do believe they officially raised the MSRP of the 3900X and delayed the 3950X by two months to fully soak up those margins. If you've got it, flaunt it, right?!?

And honestly, it's a win-win. While I had to trim a few components back in the $1,750 build to hit the target price, there's simply no better pay off for content creation than more cores, so it was absolutely worth paying a bit more for the 3900X. In the meantime, Intel is circling the drain. The latest news today is that it's officially eliminated 10nm CPUs from its desktop timeline, and will continue producing 14nm desktop chips until 2022. Guess what... while that may be true, I can tell you what they won't be doing: selling 14nm desktop chips through 2022, because no one is going to buy them!
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The High-End Gaming and Work PC Builds / Re: TBG's $1,750 Content Creation PC Build
« Last post by Secret on October 14, 2019, 01:09:01 PM »
That new 12 core 3900x has me a bit jealous now lol.
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General Discussion / Re: New High End Build
« Last post by Ari Altman on October 13, 2019, 09:33:21 AM »
Thanks Ari,

Your help is making this a lot easier.  I would fret over the stuff I'm bringing up for hours before I got things sorted out. 

I am a bit unclear on what you said about the BIOS and utilities.  You said in your high end build video that you would download the utilities and that was why I looked at them. I figured that is where temperature information came from or is that unnecessary.

Regarding the BIOS, I am happy to leave it alone.  I don't understand what you mean when you say you would download the BIOS file to a flash drive.  Is that the installed BIOS or the BIOS update that is bundled with the utilities.  I assume there is a way to copy the files to the UEFI system.

Thanks again.

There are a lot of files you can download from Asus, and many are very good. The Asus AI Suite is what lets you see temperatures and other functions. I wouldn't use the BIOS flash utility, though. Don't worry about that for now. Flashing the BIOS is most definitely not something you should be doing right now.
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