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Title: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Ari Altman on May 26, 2019, 09:32:04 PM
Questions or comments about TBG's article "AMD Announces its Next-Gen "Zen 2" Processor Lineup, Arriving July 2019 (https://techbuyersguru.com/amd-announces-its-next-gen-zen-2-processor-lineup-arriving-july-2019)"? Post them here!
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Secret on July 09, 2019, 07:24:56 PM
They're here and they look good  :)
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Ari Altman on July 09, 2019, 09:08:57 PM
They're here and they look good  :)

Yes, absolutely. But see my comments in the latest TBG DIY PC Update (https://techbuyersguru.com/tbg-diy-pc-buyers-guides). The issue is that the only boards guaranteed to support Ryzen 3000 start at $170, while the only chips available for purchase are $250 and down (the 3600X, 3600, 3400G, and 3200G), which leads to a serious mis-match. I've inquired with AMD's PR firm whether they'd like me to publish a recommendation on compatible motherboards, and will have that in the guides if it comes through. I can almost guarantee that not a single B450 board in the retail channel has proper BIOS support out of the box, as I just purchased a Gigabyte B450 board at retail two weeks ago and it had a January BIOS. Ryzen 3000 code wasn't released by AMD until May.

But don't worry - going forward, Ryzen 3000 will be in TBG's guides. It's just a matter of when, and given that B550 isn't arriving until next year, it's going to be the 3700X and 3900X paired with the X570 once those high-end chips actually hit retail in quantity. The 3800X looks like a pass to me, and I'm not that enthusiastic about the 3600X either, as their "slower" siblings the 3700X and 3600 seem like much better values.
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Secret on July 10, 2019, 10:54:19 AM
I saw some benchmarks and the 3800x certainly doesn't look to be worth $70 more than the 3700x for what looks like a minuscule performance boost.  The 3900x certainly looks promising for the price, especially for us content creators.

I did want to add that the new 5xx series boards having mulitple 10gb usb ports and a whole lot more real sata ports is worth it to me.  Idk if the pci 4 is gonna make a difference but I'm always excited about the ability to transfer more data at faster speeds.
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Ari Altman on July 10, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
I saw some benchmarks and the 3800x certainly doesn't look to be worth $70 more than the 3700x for what looks like a minuscule performance boost.  The 3900x certainly looks promising for the price, especially for us content creators.

Yes, that sounds about right. I think this is probably why AMD didn't sample the 3800X to reviewers. It's just not going to be a big seller.
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Reyort on July 10, 2019, 03:58:15 PM
Then why make it?
Title: Re: AMD's Announces Zen 2
Post by: Ari Altman on July 10, 2019, 04:02:30 PM
Then why make it?

Primarily for OEMs who want product differentiation. A little auto-overclocking will most likely bring the 3700X on par with the 3800X, but OEMs don't typically offer or support overclocking.