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Title: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on December 20, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
Hi,
Last month I put together your "$1000 Gaming Desktop Build (October 2015)" and absolutely love it.  However, now my husband has computer envy!  He has a gaming rig that was built by a independent computer place.  I would like to buy him an upgrade for his computer but really don't know where the best place to start would be.  Making sure that everything is compatible with each component through out the process is a bit confusing for me.  Wondering if you could suggest what to start with and possible suggestions for the components?

His current system:
Processor - AMD Phenom IIx4 965
Motherboard - ASUSTek M4A89GTD-PRO
RAM - 16GB
Video Card - AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Monitor - Acer P221S

He can play Planetside 2 on medium-high settings and it still looks crapy compared to mine (which I run on ultra).  End goal would be to create an equal or better gaming rig than mine.

Thanks
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on December 20, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
Hello brette1e$adele, and welcome to the TBG Forum!

So glad to hear you are enjoying the $1,000 Build (http://techbuyersguru.com/1000-gaming-productivity-pc-build). It's a great all-around PC, offering a lot of bang for the buck.

As for your husband's PC, let's see what we can do. He has an AMD quad-core PC, circa 2010 or so. The components were really great back then, but certainly can't keep up with your Core i5-equipped PC, for instance.

Now, here's the thing - you wanted an "equal or better gaming rig" than yours - while that's possible to do with systems a few years old, his is going to be pretty hard to upgrade to that level of performance, but we can get close. There really aren't any viable upgrades for his CPU without changing the motherboard, and that pretty much means a "new" computer, so let's pass on that for now. He has tons of RAM, which is great - no need for an upgrade there. So let's focus on the video card, which can definitely be upgraded easily.

I believe his monitor has a resolution of 1650x1080, so we don't need to get too crazy with power. I would recommend you go straight for the XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB (http://amzn.to/22iHq6g), which is currently on closeout for $180 after rebate. That's a fantastic deal for a card this powerful (it's a bit stronger than your R9 380 4GB, for instance). And it's a good match for his current system. He'll easily be able to max out Planetside 2 with it. While there are less expensive cards, they are so much slower than the 280X that saving $20 or $30 by going with them just doesn't make sense. This is a card he could take to a new system in the future if he wanted and still be very happy with its performance.

By the way, there are two things you'll need to confirm before upgrading:
(1) space in his case - this card is 12" long, and some cases are too small to hold such a large card.
(2) power supply - ideally he should have a 500W unit or above.

If his system can't meet one or both of these criteria, then the second best upgrade is the Zotac GTX 960 4GB (http://amzn.to/22iJbQW). It's about the same price ($200, no rebate), but is about 15% slower than the 280X. It will fit in virtually any case, however, and can run on almost any power supply, so it's truly a drop-in upgrade for any system. If you're at all unsure about how to measure his case or check his power supply, or it would ruin the surprise, then the GTX 960 is the card to get.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on December 21, 2015, 08:34:02 AM
Thank you so much for the information.  I just checked his power supply and it's a Revolution 85+ so he has tons of power available. His case is a larger one and I think with some re-organization it could fit in.   Right now the brackets for his hard drives are slightly in the way but those could be be mounted up a spot and I should get the clearance I need.  If all else fails he just gets a new case later on.  Just an FYI, I live in Canada so the pricing is a bit different.  But cost really isn't too much of a big deal.  I would rather pay more for something that will last longer than buy something less expensive and have to replace it in half the time. 

I'll let you know how this goes and probably ask for help for the next upgrade when the time comes. 

Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on December 21, 2015, 09:23:01 AM
Ah, yes, Canada has very different prices and product availability. Right now, there's a great deal at Newegg.ca on the Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-7120282-10657534-1429218932000?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newegg.ca%2FProduct%2FProduct.aspx%3FItem%3DN82E16814202148%26cm_re%3Dr9_390-_-14-202-148-_-Product), which is a great long-term investment.

There are other cards in this price range, but I'm thinking about future potential here, and the 390 has the most. Just remember, your husband's CPU most definitely cannot take advantage of the full power of this video card, so you can't fully judge it until he has a new CPU (like yours, for instance!).
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on February 22, 2016, 03:29:53 PM
Hi,
I'm back again and ready for the next upgrade(s) for my hubby's computer.  His video card was definitely the upgrade it needed but ready for a motherboard/processor recommendation.  Could we put in the same as mine or are there better ones out there since last October?

Thanks,
Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on February 22, 2016, 03:39:26 PM
Hi,
I'm back again and ready for the next upgrade(s) for my hubby's computer.  His video card was definitely the upgrade it needed but ready for a motherboard/processor recommendation.  Could we put in the same as mine or are there better ones out there since last October?

Thanks,
Brette

Can you confirm which video card you ended up with?

As for the next upgrade, yes, the Core i5-6500 is the best bet for him. Have a look at the latest $1,000 PC Buyer's Guide (http://techbuyersguru.com/1000-gaming-productivity-pc-build) for the recommended components (including links to Amazon Canada!).
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on February 22, 2016, 09:01:06 PM
I got him the  XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on February 22, 2016, 10:17:06 PM
I noticed from your original post that your husband has 16GB of RAM. It looks like his motherboard uses DDR3 RAM, which is still a viable product. You could save quite a bit of money by reusing that RAM (assuming you're not going to move all of the old components to another system). If you were to do that, you could just get a motherboard and CPU and have a major upgrade. But you can't use the Core i5-6500, as its motherboards use DDR4 RAM. Instead, you could go for an older Haswell-based processor and a B85 motherboard.

The best deal in Canadian dollars is the Core i5-4590S for CDN$255 (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00J6F5LHM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=15121&creative=390961&creativeASIN=B00J6F5LHM&linkCode=as2&tag=thtebusgu06-20) at Amazon.ca, along with the MSI B85M-G43 motherboard for CDN$115 (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00D12OAVE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=15121&creative=390961&creativeASIN=B00D12OAVE&linkCode=as2&tag=thtebusgu06-20) including shipping. This would be a huge upgrade from the AMD-based system your husband is currently using, and would allow him to take full advantage of his powerful R9 280X video card.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on March 02, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
Thanks again for you help.  We went with what you suggested and got it installed last night.  A few minor hiccups but got them worked out and overall he is ecstatic with it's performance.  A huge difference in game play and graphics from what he was playing on a few days ago. 

Love this site and you are very helpful and knowledgeable! 
Thanks,
Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on March 02, 2016, 11:25:00 AM
Thanks again for you help.  We went with what you suggested and got it installed last night.  A few minor hiccups but got them worked out and overall he is ecstatic with it's performance.  A huge difference in game play and graphics from what he was playing on a few days ago. 

Love this site and you are very helpful and knowledgeable! 
Thanks,
Brette

Brette,

This is great news! Are there any issues you think readers should know about if they wanted to do a similar upgrade to an older system?

This really is a multi-generational jump you've made, and all you had to do was upgrade the CPU, motherboard, and video card. It made a circa-2010 PC totally up-to-date! That's part of the fun of building your own PCs!
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on August 24, 2016, 09:05:54 AM
I'm back to pick your brain again and looking for possibly another upgrade.  It appears that due to human error (Disclaimer: you should not keep a glass of juice on your desk above your tower) my husband will need to purchase another video card.  Since that was upgraded before his motherboard, he had some limitations on what he could get.  However, now that his motherboard and processor are upgraded, is there better than the XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB.  If we have to buy a new one and there are better one's out there, it would only make sense to buy better one.  Long term investment. 

As for all the advice and suggests so far, awesome.  His computer was running games on Ultra high setting with no problems at all.  If this accident had not have happened the only other upgrade he would be looking at would be to upgrade to a SSD but just waiting for those to come down in price some. 
In response to your last question about issues readers should know about upgrading older systems...size would be a main concern.  If you are building a gaming rig, a lot of newer GPU's are becoming larger to handle what's expected of them.  I had to modify a bracket in the exsisting case to accomadate the video card...but it was very minor and I think you warned me of this beforhand. But it's always the little things that cause some major issues. Also, I would love to see (or find one if one exists) a drop down filter type of system to help people "self-upgrade" and find products that are compatible with one another.  You pick what you have and it will list the products for that component you are looking to upgrade that will work with what you have. 

I really appreciate having a site/fourm where I can get help and information specific to what I'm looking for and from someone/people who are on top of new products and are VERY knowlegable.  ;)
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on August 24, 2016, 09:46:15 AM
I'm back to pick your brain again and looking for possibly another upgrade.  It appears that due to human error (Disclaimer: you should not keep a glass of juice on your desk above your tower) my husband will need to purchase another video card.  Since that was upgraded before his motherboard, he had some limitations on what he could get.  However, now that his motherboard and processor are upgraded, is there better than the XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB.  If we have to buy a new one and there are better one's out there, it would only make sense to buy better one.  Long term investment. 

As for all the advice and suggests so far, awesome.  His computer was running games on Ultra high setting with no problems at all.  If this accident had not have happened the only other upgrade he would be looking at would be to upgrade to a SSD but just waiting for those to come down in price some. 
In response to your last question about issues readers should know about upgrading older systems...size would be a main concern.  If you are building a gaming rig, a lot of newer GPU's are becoming larger to handle what's expected of them.  I had to modify a bracket in the exsisting case to accomadate the video card...but it was very minor and I think you warned me of this beforhand. But it's always the little things that cause some major issues. Also, I would love to see (or find one if one exists) a drop down filter type of system to help people "self-upgrade" and find products that are compatible with one another.  You pick what you have and it will list the products for that component you are looking to upgrade that will work with what you have. 

I really appreciate having a site/fourm where I can get help and information specific to what I'm looking for and from someone/people who are on top of new products and are VERY knowlegable.  ;)

Hello again brette1e$adele!

Sorry to hear about the accident. Are you sure that only the video card was damaged? Liquid in a PC case can definitely cause issues for many components.

Based on our previous discussion, I believe you're running a Core i5-4590S processor on a B85 motherboard. Those components, assuming they're still functioning correctly, are definitely capable of supporting an even faster video card than you previously purchased, the Radeon R9 280X.

And the bright side of all this is that both AMD and Nvidia have introduced new video cards that truly distance themselves from the previous generation, including your R9 280X. You can get close to a 50% performance boost from the Radeon RX 480 4GB or GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, both at US$200. Plus, these cards will fit better in your case, as they're smaller (and draw less power).

The problem is that the RX 480 is not actually available for sale in any real quantity, so the GTX 1060 is going to be the card to get at this point. The most affordable model in Canada right now is the Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/7120282/type/dlg/http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500405&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=gtx_1060-_-14-500-405-_-Product). It's CAD$260 plus shipping. If you wanted an even bigger upgrade, go for the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/7120282/type/dlg/http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=gtx_1060-_-14-125-901-_-Product) for CAD$360 plus shipping. In addition to having double the memory, it also has about 10% more cores, translating roughly to 10% more performance than the 3GB model. It will be 60% faster than the R9 280X you have.

By the way, thanks for the input on helping others upgrade their PCs. Perhaps in a future website update, TBG can implement the drop-down upgrade helper menu you suggested. There are definitely some basic concepts that wouldn't be too hard to implement in that type of upgrade advisor.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on August 24, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
We ran some tests and it appears to just be the video card that got damaged.  We did take it out/apart and cleaned it and saw some improvments each time but it's nowhere near 100%.  Starting with this replacement/upgrade and go from there.  I will let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on March 03, 2017, 01:45:49 PM
Hey Ari,

I purchased an SSD card (Samsung SSD 850 EVO M.2 500GB)  for my Husband's computer and I think I might have bought somthing that won't fit on his motherboard.  So with that being said we can move forward in two directions: buy an adapter for the SSD or upgrade his motherboard. 

If I got an adapter would the motherboard be able to even run the SSD to its full potential?  If I go to the MSI website and use their filter system for motherboards, there are no Intel B85's that come with a M.2 slot so that got me thinking that it might not be compatiable. 

With my other option of a motherboard upgrade (which he needs because he is experiencing some sound/connection issues associated with the accident mentioned in the previous messages) what would be your suggestion for one that would would with all the other hardware he currently has (I've listed everything below)?

Processor: Intel Core i5-4590S Processor
Motherboard: MSI Computer Corp. Motherboard Micro ATX DDR3 1333 LGA 1150 Motherboards B85M-G43
Power Supply: ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

I guess I should have come to ask about the SSD card before purchasing it.  Lesson learned...lol.

Thanks,
Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on March 03, 2017, 04:13:16 PM
Hey Ari,

I purchased an SSD card (Samsung SSD 850 EVO M.2 500GB)  for my Husband's computer and I think I might have bought somthing that won't fit on his motherboard.  So with that being said we can move forward in two directions: buy an adapter for the SSD or upgrade his motherboard. 

If I got an adapter would the motherboard be able to even run the SSD to its full potential?  If I go to the MSI website and use their filter system for motherboards, there are no Intel B85's that come with a M.2 slot so that got me thinking that it might not be compatiable. 

With my other option of a motherboard upgrade (which he needs because he is experiencing some sound/connection issues associated with the accident mentioned in the previous messages) what would be your suggestion for one that would would with all the other hardware he currently has (I've listed everything below)?

Processor: Intel Core i5-4590S Processor
Motherboard: MSI Computer Corp. Motherboard Micro ATX DDR3 1333 LGA 1150 Motherboards B85M-G43
Power Supply: ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

I guess I should have come to ask about the SSD card before purchasing it.  Lesson learned...lol.

Thanks,
Brette

Hello again, Brette!

Yes, that M.2 drive you purchased is a bit too new for your motherboard, but there are adapters available that you can use to plug it into the lowest PCIe expansion slot on the board. The truth is that no motherboards that would work with your CPU will actually provide proper connections for that SSD.

If you'd like to go with the adapter, the one to use is the SilverStone ECM20 (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01798WOJ0/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&camp=15121&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01798WOJ0&linkId=d31a32d0a6c017e7d3d3d134be7a12e1). The top slot on the adapter card will work for your SSD, and you'll then connect the adapter to the motherboard with a SATA cable, just as if it were a regular solid-state drive.

That being said, if you really need a new motherboard, I'd suggest you try to return the SSD, and get a standard 850 Evo 500GB 2.5" drive (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00OBRE5UE/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&camp=15121&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00OBRE5UE&linkId=e19df1a3d75f4602cb15b7d1c17f4af0). In terms of motherboards, you can really get anything, including the same one you have. A nice upgrade option is the ASRock H97 Pro4 (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00KAZPWCG/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&camp=15121&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00KAZPWCG&linkId=dd864ac242990bb97041d775e7c77aa0), which requires a seven-slot case. You'll need to confirm your husband has one (rather than a four-slot case) to use this board.

One important note: if you used an OEM copy of Windows, it will cause registration issues when you swap the motherboard. Only retail copies (with full retail packaging like you'd see on a store shelf) will allow easy changes of motherboards.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on May 05, 2019, 08:34:56 PM
I'm back looking for more upgrading information. ;)  This time to upgrade his processor.

Current Spec's -
Processor: Intel Core i5-4590S Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Pro4
Power Supply: ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

Thanks,
Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on May 06, 2019, 08:29:53 AM
I'm back looking for more upgrading information. ;)  This time to upgrade his processor.

Current Spec's -
Processor: Intel Core i5-4590S Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Pro4
Power Supply: ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

Thanks,
Brette

Welcome back, Brette!

What is your goal in upgrading the CPU? Are there specific applications that are not performing well?

There are a few upgrades you can make from the 4590S, which I know was itself a previous upgrade, but the motherboard doesn't support any of the latest models, so for a major upgrade, you may need to upgrade the motherboard as well, which is more complicated.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on May 06, 2019, 09:13:20 AM
Ari,

The main goal was to improve fps while competitive gaming.  His computer appears to be sluggish, which is why we thought an upgrade to his processor might be needed.  Technically he should be able to run games on the highest quality possible due to his video card but lately some games he needs to reduce quality to increase FPS.  You are correct about the current processor being a previous upgrade but it was upgraded with the previous motherboard (the one that got juice spilt on it).  All in all, this is the "oldest" component. 

Any suggestions would be considered.

Thanks,
Brette
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on May 06, 2019, 09:29:42 AM
Ok, let's focus on improving having performance. What I recommend to test the system is to run windows task manager in the background while gaming. It will graph the load on the CPU, RAM, and GPU. Whichever is closest to 100% utilization is most likely the culprit. Report back once you've had a chance to test it. I think it could be the CPU or GPU, potentially both depending on the particular game. Some will run perfectly on the 4590S, others will struggle.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on May 07, 2019, 07:11:39 AM
So We ran the test and for one game (Mordhau) the CPU was running in the 70 - 80% range and the GPU was ranging between 40-70% and getting 30 FPS.

Then he got on Mechwarrior Online and tested it with all his settings on High.  While loading into the game his GPU was working at 98% but during intense game play it was running below 50%.  His CPU was running again around 70% and his FPS dropped to 40 FPS. 

RAM stayed consistant around 30%

Also his CPU speed was running consistantly close to it's max 2.89 gHZ for both tests.

I took a video so if you require different information I can refer back to the video.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on May 07, 2019, 07:27:28 AM
So We ran the test and for one game (Mordhau) the CPU was running in the 70 - 80% range and the GPU was ranging between 40-70% and getting 30 FPS.

Then he got on Mechwarrior Online and tested it with all his settings on High.  While loading into the game his GPU was working at 98% but during intense game play it was running below 50%.  His CPU was running again around 70% and his FPS dropped to 40 FPS. 

RAM stayed consistant around 30%

Also his CPU speed was running consistantly close to it's max 2.89 gHZ for both tests.

I took a video so if you require different information I can refer back to the video.

OK, excellent information. This definitely tells me that the CPU is being maxed out. It's a little counter-intuitive, but a CPU at 70% and a GPU at 70% are not the same thing. You see, games don't use all of a CPU's cores equally, because the game engine will almost always need to run its main code on just one core. So if a CPU is at 70% in a game, that almost certainly means that one of its cores is totally maxed out, which then becomes the bottleneck. Some games can effectively use more than one core (or even more than four), so getting a CPU with more cores is also helpful, but I think in your situation, you are being limited by your single-core performance.

So there are two options available, one simple, one complex:

(1) Buy a Core i7-4790K processor from Newegg.ca (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/7120282/type/dlg/https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADDZ7GD4648&Description=4790K&cm_re=4790K-_-19-117-369-_-Product) for CAN$494. It will almost certainly allow you to push your GPU to 100% all the time. This is a quad-core, 8-thread powerhouse that will run at a minimum of 4GHz at all times. It's the fastest CPU ever released for the motherboard socket you're using (LGA 1150). The issue is that because it's not produced anymore, the remaining stock is quite expensive.

(2) If you wanted more future-proofing, you'd have to upgrade your CPU, motherboard, and RAM. That is going to be a lot more expensive, but it opens up the option of using six- and eight-core CPUs with more powerful architectures. You could then go with a processor like the Core i5-9600K for CAN$340 (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HHLX1R8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07HHLX1R8&linkId=d79b528b8b46694fe54e6f816f47baca), which offers slightly better performance than the 4790K (it's a six-core, six-thread processor, but has faster cores). You'd need a new motherboard for a minimum of CAN$100, plus 16GB of DDR4 RAM for a minimum of CAN$100 as well. The total price is just slightly higher, but the upgrade process is a lot more complicated.

So, to sum up, you have the easy route, which means buying older tech for a high price, but getting a drop-in solution, or you have the more complicated route, which just requires a lot more installation time. If you decide to go with option 2, let me know and I can suggest a motherboard and RAM.
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: brette1e$adele on May 09, 2019, 03:18:19 AM
Ok well lets work on option 2.   8)
Title: Re: Desktop Upgrading
Post by: Ari Altman on May 09, 2019, 07:17:07 AM
Ok well lets work on option 2.   8)

All right, sounds good!

So, as I mentioned, the Core i5-9600K (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HHLX1R8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07HHLX1R8&linkId=84d2669f3f975a56c091536404a75271) would be a very big upgrade from your 4590S. It has 50% more cores (6), and 50% higher clockspeed, as well as a 15% improvement in performance per clock cycle. That will combine to provide a 75-100% boost in most applications. Now, you could go higher than that, for example to the Core i7-9700K (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HHN6KBZ/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07HHN6KBZ&linkId=b3d485f1c3e46c2b0571acd2f937448b), which is an eight-core processor for an extra CAN$!50, but I'd leave that for another upgrade down the road if you ever need it. Honestly, I think you'll want to upgrade the video card before you make that move.

With that said, here are the upgrade parts I recommend:
(1) CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HHLX1R8/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=thtebusgu06-20&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07HHLX1R8&linkId=84d2669f3f975a56c091536404a75271) - CAN$340
(2) Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HRZHJ6Z/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=thtebusgu06-20&linkId=bcb37bf25469ae546b2e2cf1ca79a415) - CAN$195 + $4 shipping (sale ends in 4 days)
(3) RAM: Corsair 2x8GB Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/links/7120282/type/dlg/https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852&Description=2x8GB%20ddr4-3000&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=2x8GB_ddr4-3000-_-20-233-852-_-Product) - CAN$127 (sale ends today!)

This comes out to a total of CAN$665, which is about $100 more than I originally proposed, but I've selected better motherboard and RAM models to give you a better investment versus the most stripped-down models. The motherboard in particular offers dual M.2 solid-state drive slots, 8 USB ports, and full support for overclocking, which you may want to tinker with at some point. And the RAM speed of 3000MHz is ideal for this platform, while cost just a few dollars more than much slower RAM. Also note that I found sale prices on those two items at Newegg.ca, so that's what I linked to above. Saves you about CAN$30 if you order now!

One other thing I should mention is that if you'll have to move your Windows 10 license over to the new system, but this is very easy if you log into Windows 10 using a Microsoft login name and password. That way the license is connected to your e-mail address, rather than the motherboard of the old system, which is not where you'll want the license!